Trent Reznor, frontman of the rock band Nine Inch Nails, has long been one of the most outspoken critics of the record industry’s ways. He’s now continuing to make music outside of that system. But he can do that because he became hugely popular within that system first, something which has also been true for acts like Radiohead. But Reznor has some very interesting thoughts about the future of music as a business for all artists.

He shared some of them on the latest Digg Dialogg. Notably, he says that “we’re in between business models. You know, the old record labels are dead, and the new thing hasn’t come out yet.”